Ron Paul: US is slipping into a fascist system

The Arizona and Michigan primaries will kick off next week and the GOP candidates are gearing up for another dramatic day at the polls. Over the weekend, Ron Paul addressed a crowd in Kansas City, Missouri and warned that the US is slipping into a fascist system. Paul continued to inform the public of the relationship between government and big business and how this collaboration is infringing on civil rights. Lew Rockwell, chairman of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute, joins us to explore Paul’s statements.

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Steve W
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@Phalinex I think you need to look more closely at their spending, or over-spending should I say. They also have a ridiculously low retirement age and a huge concentration of government jobs. Let's not forget the single currency's serious flaws when it comes to different economies in different countries. There is way more to it than the simple picture you draw. The comparisons simply cannot be drawn between the 2 countries of the US and Greece, as they are very VERY different.

zonkedforlife2
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Look up the definition of Fascism in Websters dictionary… what does it remind you of?

IPlayLikeCrap
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Every other presidential candidate is only concerned about war with Iran, increasing the debt, giving more breaks to the rich, and taking away our personal freedoms. Ron Paul is the last chance we got

Marvareeno
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@Phalinex

All of the recessions and inflations since 1949 have been due to the actions of the federal government's Keynesian economics. It is a regular clockwork cycle occurring at 4 and 8 year intervals. Recessions are caused by the FED increasing interest rates to allegedly "fight inflation." The government then increases spending to stimulate the economy causing prices & interest rates to go up reducing demand causing another recession. Page 19 on my news blog shows the stats.

Marvareeno
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@Phalinex

At every turn of the Keynesian wheel the US dollar becomes less valuable. People are pushed into higher tax brackets and the government and FED become more powerful.

After 99 years of "fighting inflation" the FED has reduced the value of the US dollar to less than 3% of what it was worth in 1913.

In other words the American people have been swindled out of 97% of the value of their money and have had their taxes enormously increased without their consent.

th3giv3r
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@Phalinex Assuming your premise is correct (which it isn't), you'd still need to prove that the government is actually "stimulating the economy" (whatever the fuck that means). Are you in favor of more bailouts to the banks? Do we need more Solyndras? Or should we just pay people to dig ditches and fill them the fuck back up? I'm not saying I know what the solution is, but I AM saying that, in my opinion, your solution is laughable and inept.

th3giv3r
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@Phalinex Show me these polls. Why do you lie like a scumbag?

th3giv3r
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@Phalinex Of course I disagree with any bailout. What right does any free enterprise have to tax payer money?

Marvareeno
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@Phalinex

You back up your argument with insults. I back up mine with US government statistics which I have plotted out on page 19 of my news blog on my website.

And I did not say that inflation was high. On the contrary on page 74 of my news blog I state:

"Inflation has stayed below an average of 4.5 percent since Paul made his speech."

But the National debt is almost as high as it was in 1950 when it was 120% of GNP due to WWII so eventually the dollar will be worthless.

Petr Pospíšil
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Nice interview. Wrong TV station. Shame on Faux news and CNN.

Marvareeno
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@EaSyNa123

Whores have no shame.

a2zhandi
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Boy, I sure am glad we have RP to tell us all what WE ALREADY KNOW.
We're so blessed he's here to lead the way

Marvareeno
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@th3giv3r

Adam Smith said that when prices rise demand goes down. When the government prints money and spends it, it does help for a while but eventually prices go up and people stop buying causing business to loose money and lay off workers. That is called a recession. That is the law of supply and demand.

Marvareeno
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@th3giv3r

That is exactly what he is saying.That is what Keynes said. He said that even if the government should pay people to dig holes and fill them back up again that it would help the economy.

EnjoyMarijuana
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my president

th3giv3r
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@Marvareeno With competition, prices go down. But companies successfully lobby governments for exemptions from "regulations" and subsidies in places the government has no business investing in, securing their greater market share and manipulating the system unnaturally. Business losing money are a sign that demand is being transferred elsewhere, or that the business itself is no longer viable. Either these business shape up, adapt, or they're gone, "too big to fail" or not.

th3giv3r
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@Marvareeno Fuck, I hate typos: businesses*. grr..

Marvareeno
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@th3giv3r

Yes. That is what Adam Smith said. He invented laisser faire and he was a big opponent of mercantilism – what Karl Marx called "imperialism" – monopolies usurping the power of government in order to secure their interests overseas. In the "Wealth of Nations" Smith pointed out that the military ventures used to secure trades for monopolies always cost far more than the trade is worth.

Aljosa App
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@hawbster What most ppl think ,the free-market is , is simply not true at all, In "free.market" we know today, the individuals get to chose for themselves , yes, but not the individuals that u think !! This only applies to the Individual Oligarchs, meaning very few individuals in fact, who r really fascist by default. In reality this means feudalism and no freedom for u and me. And the state cant do anything about it, since it gave its protectionist rights away and ..

Aljosa App
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@ApparatusInfo btw, to be a national sovereig state, does not mean, that u get the check from the gov, and here it all ends… No, in such climate, only then u get to have some real freedoms, as of deciding what u want to do , what to produce, and be able to get fair payment for that too., u as individual get to be protected from the big corporations an such state also gets to pint its own money for itself , and the basic thing of such system is sovereignty of individual

Aljosa App
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@mdwharton2 Exactly , the thing is, that these Austrian Economists argue, that there is not enough "free" market, that it has to be more , and only then that it will work,,, But in fact globalization is free-market , So we do have it , all around us, for some time now…, and look where it drove us…, to a brink of a collapse , that's where . And This is what it happens with such Imperial system every single time or place it gets implemented , for centuries this has been so…

EmoneyMaker28
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wow, totally black screen when I pull this up, tried several times

Tepstolog
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@Zealous0484 That's the rederick yes, a cover story if u will.., but not the reality at all. In reality is one and the same thing. In order for u to trully understand What I'm talking about, u would have to know some history of this matter, A history that goes back at least to the old Venetian Empire and possibly more. I can direct u to certain well done videos which could show u the basics in some verry profound way … simply to to my other ch.(tepstolog) , and it starts…

Tepstolog
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@tepstolog , and the second video is to be found , under the one that opens when u get there, as a video response… watch them both , and it will open your horizonts

jerseygrl5
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I've been saying this for years, we aren't slipping into a fascist stated, we're there. Clearly MOST Americans were asleep when they discussed fascism in their HS history classes because they don't recognize fascism when they see it.

ShogaNinja
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@jerseygrl5

No anyone who uses that phrase knows a troll when they see them and can adequately administer their anti-troll defense system. You and I both know that Ron Paul is not going to win, and on that magical day that all odds were beaten and he did win, and we both know that he would have no power to affect significant change. You claim to be vegetarian. You should know better than to trust a lying, desperate, old bigot who has failed twice before. Grow up and occupy something.

waypasthadenough
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For once Ron Paul is wrong. We've been there a long time already.

Don't understand? Follow my links. Read the quotes page first.

waypasthadenough
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If you sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold dead hands.

The Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the way back to Boston.

What will you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)?

Don't understand? Follow my links. Read the quotes page first. Then read my column ‘Prepping for Slavery’

yssufyan
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Ron Paul sounds like Howard Zinn

affilinet
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@Phalinex The problem is not just a political one but also a philosophical one.People do not understand the role of man,and what capitalism really is.If for example there is a food shortage it beomes valuable again to grow your own food.If oil runs out other energy sources become valuable.You take your chances in life,but you dont have a right to someone growing and selling you food or oil,or housing,or health care.or anithyng.

affilinet
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@Phalinex You cannot blame the system or other people.If for example you want to take the risk of beeing dependent on a grocery store selling you food,and for whatever reason there is a food schortage,you cannot blame anyone or the goverment.You took your chances in life.If you dont want to learn how to grow your own food it means you took your chance that food stores will always have plenty.Capitalism in a nutshell,no one is responsable for you,only you are

affilinet
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@Phalinex To answer your question,cut spending on what?Well,if you look at the math(do democrates look at it aniway?) you will have to cut spending by at least 50% across the board,or it will get to a point were there isnt even enough money to pay back the interest rates.When that happens,its too late,and you will be FORCED by the bond market to cut spending aniway,because no one will lend money animore.

affilinet
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@Phalinex A fair system would be if everyone pays the same amont of taxes,poor or billionaire.Democrates are closet socialists if you ask me,you dont care that socialism doesnt work,the only thing you do care about is that that rich guy has more money than you have after you are done payng taxes.Guess what that rich guy is not goyng to keep shop and jobs open without adeguate incentive.Taxing the rich to death wont work if you want jobs and grocery stores and iphones and computers

truevoice08
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Lew Rockwell is right that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a FASCIST.

Proof here: mises(dot)org/daily/5235/

"FDR and the Collectivist Wave"

Lucky Bootz
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hey i tried to post a music video for ron paul..
its titled "the next revolution:ron paul" please check it out. its only a minute and a half and its really good

Gold21030
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It's funny because people believe that America was free at one point.

carefulcarpenter
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Not surprising a corporate media and their viewers would ignore a conscientious man speaking about fascism.

Draken's Fantasy Land
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vote for Ron Paul if you agree with him.

PacificCircle1
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Paul has a few true points.
But on this issue, why the hell is he running with the GOP, the main force behind the drift to fascism?

wstsd1
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I guess I'd understand if you won't accept that critique from Wikipedia, but I may have wrongfully assumed you wouldn't be willing to read a book on the subject. Try Three New Deals: Reflections on Roosevelt's America, Mussolini's Italy, and Hitler's Germany by Wolfgang Schivelbusch.

riethc
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You're doing the country a severe disfavor by promoting this kind of junk. Fascism in Europe led to the death of millions of innocents. FDR was not a eugenicist nut like Hitler or wanting to rebuild the Roman Empire like Mussolini. He was dealing with the situation of a Great Depression, battling the oligarchs of finance and traitors to of the tradition of the United States, which is Human Progress. It's parallel to the situation today is uncanny.

wstsd1
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I didn't write any of these books on the subject, so you'd have to take up this "severe disfavor" argument with one of the author's like Mr. Schivelbusch. I should also point out that as mentioned by Mr. Rockwell, the term fascism has taken on a very different meaning since the 1930's. George Orwell once wrote an article explaining the shifting definition of fascism back in the 40's (google: Orwell What is Fascism).

riethc
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I think fascism is an interesting subject, and looking into it more is a good idea, especially now that we are entering a similar situation as pre-WWII. In my opinion, the main question to ask when looking for fascism is how does this particular political grouping view Mankind and its history. If you have political platforms that detract from any principles that promote humanity, such as "all men being create[d] equal", then you are dealing with something that is at least somewhat fascist.

JJ309
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What's ironic is the American Facist Movement Condems all politicians except for Ron Paul. Calling him a people and urginging everyone to read his book "End of Feds". google the words: americanfacistmovement

PALADIN
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because they know that without demolishing corporitism in America first, Pauls' government would be an easy target for large corporations to abolish, dominate and take over. When mega corporations have more money and more power than the government they can take it over in a wink of an eye. Paul is right, but how does he implement a reversal without being wiped out in the process and used as the patsy for full fascist government.

annebeck58
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Yes, thanks to the parties, as well as the MSM telling folks that their votes, "count", we have built a truly FASCIST state. Here it is, 11 years after the towers came down in NY and we're screwed. People either figure this out, quickly, and revolt- or WE are ALL screwed.
In fact we ARE screwed.
Good job, Lew Rockwell!

Vik Dylan
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The US is getting communism in 30-50 years, hero. Since the Geneva Convention, Europe was socialist for 60 years & was able to afford the luxuries of socialism b/c its primary trade partner & consumer of European goods (i.e. cars, fashion/clothing, etc.). Europe will now have communism (i.e. austerity) for the next 20-30 years, while the US has socialism. The first industry to get "socialized" in the US will be healthcare, as what happened to Europe. The last industries are energy and banking… …For the next 20-30 years, the newly socialist US will depend on newly anointed & capitalist China… Read more »

Lloyd Blankfein
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Jewbags have done wonders for "America."  When are they moving to China?