Ron Paul gains on Gingrich

Ron Paul has moved in to second place right behind Newt Gingrich. According to Public Policy Polling, Ron Paul is at 21 percent of the Iowan vote and Newt leads with 22 percent. Although the mainstream media has mostly ignored Paul, many wonder how he is still in the race. Trey Stinnett, co-founder of Ron Paul Swag, joins us to help answer some question on Ron Paul’s campaign.

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ShogaNinja
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@2ndslaustas

Well i'm going to ignore the crap and praise you for what you got right. 2 party system = lies. But so is ron paul and any other potus candidate.Let's say i loaned you $1000 so you could get a job.You refuse to pay? I make an example out of you AND your family (tragic). Still want to take the money and run? Didn't think so. Welcome to Corporatocracy. Now get to work you lazy mofo. I need profit margins.You will do as I say. What? land of the free?whoever told you that's your enemy

Hob Ada
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Yes, Ron Paul is our only one hope to restore America from Jewish-fake Rothschild international criminals. Wake up America.

sandsifter149
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If the American people vote for NEWT GINGRICH..It is essentially a vote for the BUSH cartel….Don't do it…Please…!

Guy Smyly
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@sandsifter149 Wow dude….your comment was so insightful and well thought out that you had to post it twice?? lol

Look kid,your earth shattering posts might be more suited to a Pokemon video.

Edward
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@coltsrule5150 You PolyAnna Bitch!!! Go Save The Fucking World!!!! You would be eaten alive!!!

ejpetersondub
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@Belo118 It's unfortunate the mass media doesn't give him much time to debate his other policies, but if your interested go to his website, it explains his stance on all the issues you mentioned.

ejpetersondub
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@marksky57 lol seriously? It's people like Trey that make me feel all hope is lost, when young people believe fox news is divine in its opinions and wish to invade the world over acceptably false information.

oolong2
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@ejpetersondub

Political Ideology is nothing more than believing a single formula can be applied to all situations. Another word for that is "faith".

Anyone believing in some "magic forumula" without data and stats to back it up is essentially believing in nonsense.

People follow ideologs because they want something simple to make sense of the world. This is especially true during times of hardship.

This is why scientists rarely win votes and actors can become presidents.

ejpetersondub
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@oolong2 Lol what the hell are you talking about? How is believing in civil liberties at all applied to faith? And what kind of make believe evidence do you need to justify believing that the government should not infringe upon our rights and freedoms? you sound like a fake politician yourself. this is the second question of mine that you completely dodged and instead gave me a lecture, some of which i do agree with, but also a lot of nonsense. scientists dont run, so no votes.

oolong2
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@ejpetersondub

It is complete faith, your philosophy is that if we let go of the wheel the car will magically steer us in the right direction.

Do rights & freedoms alone say I can poison my child to death with what I think is a health tonic?

My point about science is that people rarely vote based on facts.. Science tests, gathers, and caluclate results. Voters don't care about it, they would rather trust a dumb ideology that "feels right" and be clueless to the actual facts.

ejpetersondub
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@oolong2 Um no I don't consider civil liberties like a motor vehicle that needs to be driven by government. That is a terrible analogy. The bigger government is, the more civil liberties shrink. And no, poisoning your child is not a civil liberty. Since you are clearly ignorant of what you speak, I suggest you go back to the dictionary to look up the definition of civil liberties.

You are right about voters though, dumb fucks.

oolong2
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@ejpetersondub

"The bigger government is, the more civil liberties shrink."

Tell me, exactly what evidence do you have of this? Based on percentage of GDP there
are large corrupt governments and there are small corrupt governments. In fact most of the corrupt ones are small.

This fixation on arbitruary "government sizes" has no bases in reality.

"Big governemnt" It's just another one of those phrases used by politicians to get a reaction from "dumb voters" nothing more.

ejpetersondub
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@oolong2 English can't be your first language….

Government = control. Control takes away liberty. More (big) government = less liberty. Its a quote from Thomas Jefferson. "Big" is just a word used to describe how much government there is. This can be valued at the amount of money it takes in and spends, how many regulations and laws it passes, etc.

oolong2
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@ejpetersondub

sigh… Didn't I tell you about nonesense formulas? Government doesn't equal anything except government. Sorry there is no "magic formula" that makes everything ok, and there is no Santa Clause.

Unless you have REAL data and stats to back up your ideas you don't have shit. Just an irrational "feeling" politicians use to manipulate you.

Thomas Jefferson also talked about the "artificial aristocracy". Which is what we have today because of idotic libertarians.

ejpetersondub
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@oolong2 You want data and stats? Ok, for example: According to the Dept. of Homeland security, their fiscal budget for the year 2011 was 56.9 billion dollars. There are several ways this inhibits freedom. 1. Money: It's funded by money that was taken from taxpayers. Less money = less freedom. 2. TSA: Forces airline passengers to waste their time standing in long lines and then subjecting them to obtrusive searches.

DHS Is part of "bigger" government, it exerts more control and power over us

oolong2
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@ejpetersondub

I don't get what department budgets has to do with your point… Do I like the TSA? No. However Education, EPA, Energy, & Transportation budgets were cut. Does this protect your right to be dumb, eat contaminated fish, have nuclear meltdowns, & drive on shitty roads & crumbling bridges?

ENOUGH with the idiotic formulas for fucks sake… There are many contries outperforming us on economic mobility, innovation, healthcare, and "happiness" with much higher taxes.

ejpetersondub
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@oolong2 Your the one that asked for data and stats, and for someone that doesn't know the difference, or the meaning of "bigger" government vs "smaller' government, it does a good job of proving my point. I'm not arguing about the potential benefits of government institutions, so you mentioning it is moot. But now that you mention it, despite all the money those programs suck in, our education system sucks, and our infrastructure is falling apart.

ejpetersondub
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@oolong2 What the hell does other countries "outperforming" us with higher taxes have ANYTHING to do with what we are talking about? Oh yea… nothing. Hell there was a time when we were outperforming the world with less taxes, so what? That proves nothing. That is such an irrelevant fact (well actually we still lead the world in innovation) to bring up. What are you trying to prove by it?

oolong2
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@ejpetersondub

Check your history… When was the US outperforming anyone with "less" taxes? During the 50s, 60s, & 70s, when we still had "Made in the US" we had taxes on the upper income bracket of 70-90%…

Reagan cut taxes and ran a deficit. Bush Jr cut taxes again and we had financial collapse AND deficit. Sorry, your claim isn't based in reality.

The oligicarchy brainwashes people into cutting taxes for THEM. Meanwhile our infrastructure and education our shit.

The Monarch
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@fokGoogol yeah, too bad he's nuts lol

greets from an actual democracy

The Monarch
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@oolong2 I like how you simpleton seem to imply that the economic wealth of the usa is somehow directly tied to taxes.

Let me teach you a tiny bit of history son.

When the second world war happened, basically europe and the only relevant parts of asia blew themselves up.

But no, I'm sure that it was your taxes that made most investors store their money in the only not shot up primary economy.

Aaah you americans, you never cease to baffle the rest of the world…

The Monarch
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@ejpetersondub describe innovation, link please;)

Oh wait.

The Monarch
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@oolong2 And we quite like it. We dont need competition, stay poor please;)

oolong2
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@goodflo911

lol… insults are only cake decoration for simplistic ideas.

Stop deflecting the question…

The question was "When was the US outperforming anyone with less taxes?" NOT the competitive advantage of the US following WW2.

Japan quickly pulled itself out of the ashes of WW2 becoming an economic force by investing HEAVILY in infrastructure, & regulations/trade policies.

It's not just taxes but INVESTING in your country, like the InterState Hwy system buit in the US.

The Monarch
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@oolong2 ''Japan quickly pulled itself out of the ashes of WW2 becoming an economic force by investing HEAVILY in infrastructure, & regulations/trade policies.''

wrong. Japan pulled itself out of the ashes of WW2 because the USA gave them free access to their markets, invested HEAVILY in japan in exchange for deploying military bases in okinawa and puppet regimes that would agree with the bases.

You know not of what you speak, do some research before you open that cakehole of yours.

The Monarch
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@oolong2 investing in your country doesnt neccecarily mean economic prosperity either. In fact the USA invests plenty in his country, but its investing in mostly military equipment, which is possibly the worst place you could put your money in.

Again, read up on your own economy and then come back and talk some more on the youtubes.

oolong2
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@goodflo911

1. You're still deflecting the question…. Why is that? Maybe it's because you'd rather talk about WW2.

2. In the years right after WW2 yes, but the US pulled much of this funding out.

3. How is it relevant to the economy of japan which "governent" the investment came from?

4. "INVESTING" does not equal "spending blindly" on the military.

5. It is obvious that investing can grow an economy however where is it do you see where NO INVESTMENT goes an economy?

The Monarch
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@oolong2 I like the part where you dont deny you were just moving air when you spoke about post WWII japan. So I'm glad we can agree you know nothing about that subject.

As for INVESTING. well duh, taxes are heaved for investing. The usa invests allright, the issue is that it invests too much in military and bureaucracy. the problem with your country is that your budget sick unbalanced and you carry the biggest national debt of all. USA is already bankrupted, it just doesnt know yet.

oolong2
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@goodflo911

I see, so instead of addressing the actual questions posed. You're deciding to deflect and talk about something else. How is that accomplishing anything?

You seem to be caught up in proving a non existent point….

I agree that much is wasted in military and bureaucracy and you agree with what I'm saying on investment. Beyond that I have no idea what you're trying to prove.

The country is only "bankrupt" in the sense that its priorities are backwards.